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    Auto-Attack in swtor ?

    Hello. From what I've read, there is no auto attack in swtor. I hope that was only bad infos because to be honest, it kinda sucks. Don't know about you guys, but sometimes the auto-attack button came in pretty handy and i'm disappointed if the rumors are true....
    So...what you think ?

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    Yes, seems like there is no auto-attack in swtor. I must agree this is not so good.But who knows, unlike wow you might not need it...

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    The rumors are true. They have been confirmed by the devs and by the press who has been recently let free to talk about the first 15 levels.
    Actually I don't think that's a bad thing and they couldn't have done what they've done implementing auto attack: in the game, each skill has very cool animations which they want you to enjoy. If a melee attack is blocked, the lightsabers will clash and sparkle, if a blaster bolt is parried, we'll actually see that being deflected. If you see your char striking the enemy, it will actually deal damage and you will know it even if you aren't paying attention at the numbers above the enemy. As soon as you see your char ending his attack animation, you'll know that your abilites have gone off (global) cooldown.
    Adding an auto attack that still keeps damaging while you're using skills would imply that you couldn't see the auto attack animation itself (and they want you to be able to know everything that's happening just by looking at the action in the middle of the screen), whereas implementing an auto attack for when you are not using skills... Well, I'm sure they haven't done it because:
    1) there's always at least one ability per class (as far as I know) that doesn't cost anything or that may even build up the class' resource (a filler skill) and you can always use that if you don't feel like using other abilities;
    2) given the 1.5 secs global cooldown, you'll be eager to press keys as soon as it falls off (and therefore giving not enought timeframe between two skills to add an auto-attack in between).
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    man i've played a warrior in wow...the auto-attack was like a bless for me. but i have to admit Lurtz have a point here

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    I played a warrior ( and hunter and rogue who arguably depend more on white damage ) and I can understand that frustration. I'm just worried that the GCD is going to lead to a very slow feeling combat experience. I hope that eventually some skills/abilities come off the GCD so that you can string together better sequences. Realistically you will in combat have somewhere between 20 actions/minute (GCD, travel time, resouce attrition, gathering, human lag, etc) for melee and maybe 30 for ranged. That sounds like a lot, but really that's you sitting and whaling on something big for more dynamic fights / questing it will fall dramatically from there. *yawn* I'm betting that we will see a speed up in the animations 4-6 months in and a 1 second GCD which will lead to a better more exciting combat experience.

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    although auto attack was a good feature since it did save my life some amount of times in WoW but the auto attack isnt that bad if its gone since there will probably always skills up to keep the action going just pretend your playing a mage and your too far away to hit the mob lol

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    im actually happy that the auto attack is taken out. Just means we have to play even more efficiently , timing when we have to use our attacks.

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    One the auto attack (white damage) was only for melee types, Spell casters had no auto attacks. For melee types this accounted for around 25 to 30% of your total DPS. Not a bad addition to your dps for doing nothing, as once you hit the target your auto attack kicked in without you having to press a button. Since all classes will have at least one attack without a cd, I believe we will not even miss the auto atack, and chances are we might even enjoy the combat more also.
    Thats my two cents and thanks for reading!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukonjack View Post
    One the auto attack (white damage) was only for melee types, Spell casters had no auto attacks. For melee types this accounted for around 25 to 30% of your total DPS. Not a bad addition to your dps for doing nothing, as once you hit the target your auto attack kicked in without you having to press a button. Since all classes will have at least one attack without a cd, I believe we will not even miss the auto atack, and chances are we might even enjoy the combat more also.
    I quote you, especially your last line. The fact is that in WoW, you press a key, watch your character do the animation for half a second, and then look at him auto-attacking or even chilling doing nothing. In SWTOR, you'll press a key and will have a full second and a half filled with an awesome animation to watch and as soon as the visual action ends, you'll be ready to make the next one happen.

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    im really excited to see the animations for the combat! I doubt anyone will miss auto attack after a while.

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    Hey Teran I did ask BW they put in auto attacks for you, because if we meet you will need all the help you can get!
    Thats my two cents and thanks for reading!
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    oooooh ouch yukon, you wound me with such words! but no matter, you dont stand a chance chump

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    I think no auto attack will me more people having to pay attention to what they are doing, and as such make people better at their class (hopefully) How many times have you seen in WOW a hunter for example, go afk and just hit auto attack so they keep doing damage while off making a sandwich or getting a drink or who knows what else.

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    That most likely was on a PvE server vs a regular mob. We had a special name for characters who went afk on our server, they were known as corpses! You always had to pay attention in PvP or raiding to what you were doing, just that auto attacks gave melee dps higher numbers. Which is what WoW became a numbers name. DPS wars as I called them.
    Thats my two cents and thanks for reading!
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    afkers... they sicken me! like i said before im really glad that auto attack is gone. you mean we have to actually pay attention to our character when we are fighting!?

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